| School name: Tenby International School Malaysia Director’s name: Jane Kuock Dates covered: 8/ 2008 – 2011 |
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Comments: The British Curriculum is held in high esteem by the locals in Malaysia and this probably stems from the memory of the supremacy of the colonial masters. This of course begs the question does any school which claims that they “teach” the National Numeracy Curriculum and the National Literacy Curriculum do so to satisfy the hunger for British Curriculum Schools in Malaysia? My answer is a big fat NO! Imagine a school management which forces the whole of primary to “share” ONE set of Oxford Reading Tree books between Y1-Y6… That gives you an idea of what the resources are like in this school. You have parents buying and sharing with teachers in TIS Literacy workbooks and Numeracy workbooks as the TIS teachers are thrown bones by the director who is control of everything and everyone. The salary offered is laughable… Let’s face it why would we leave our native country and consider coming to teach in a Muslim country except for a damn good pay package and well sun all year around… When you look at the packages offered by some other schools, newer schools it makes you sick to realize that you have been taken for a ride! Be prepared to be bullied by the COO, Principal…oh let’s not forget, even the Secretary of TIS is a bully! Be prepared to be treated like a second class citizen…all staff who aren’t Chinese are second class citizens… Be prepared to have your hard earned professional qualifications questioned as 3/4 of the teacher staff for primary and secondary have no teaching qualification…well most of your colleagues have “online” degrees…let alone having any teaching qualifications…. Now let’s recap… Rubbish working environment, a bully for a boss…would I suggest anyone out there take up an offer in Tenby International School Setia Eco Park…the answer would be a Big fat NO!!!… |
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daljits 
Hello,
I am a parent currently looking for an international school and came across your comments on Tenby on the internet. I would appreciate it if you can contact me. I would like to find out more, because I think your insights as a teacher there is invaluable. Please email me at gulabjo@gmail.com. Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you.
I am also a parent already in the deep end of this school. We never know about all this until we are in it to know it. What a sham this school is. Let us keep in touch so as to share our views to help other propective parents from making the mistake of joining TIS(my email = andrew_h@hotmail.com)
Did you get my email ?
I happen to have been browsing about international schools and came across your blog. Are you seriously a teacher? For whatever reason you are unhappy with the school, be it true or false, but the language you use and your mannerism really scares me. If you don’t mind,the problem with your working environment that you think is not suited for you, maybe you should consider leaving if you not already have. If you are currently looking for a new employer, be warned, many institutions these days have turned to the net to find background information of their candidates for the job. What if they come across this blog? I am not sure if “daljits” is your name or not, but there are many other ways to tell. I am sure your future employers would be worried if you wrote something bad about their school after you left (if you joined their school), similar to the way you have done to Tenby Schools. Rather not let you be a teacher there at all? Don’t use the internet as a way of venting your anger. If you are not happy, please do not be a teacher, how would you focus on teaching your students if you constantly have negative thoughts about their learning environment? I know you are probably not going to be happy with my comments, but I meant well and I wish you all the best. 😀
Why don’t you go and work there for awhile then you will have an idea of what a money making syndicate the school is. Can you imagine the students sit on the floor like castle during assemblies !! And the attitude of the COO is something else.
Students sitting on the floor during assemblies is nothing uncommon. I used to do it in my old school as well.
Yes it is very common to sit on the floor during assemblies but your sure they do in International Schools ?
daljits
When i was in an international school in australia, we sat on the lawn at the quad during assembly. It was informal and we loved it.
Good for you..but please consider assembly in a stuffy , hot dusty Hall with crowded environment. Please, NOT GETTING WHAT WAS PROMISED IS VERY FRUSTRATING>
I’m a student at TIS;
I cannot agree nor disagree with many of the things that are said up there, but there are also many aspects of TIS that you have not mentioned.
Firstly, let’s not forget that TIS is only 3 years old. It was only just set up, and is still adjusting to accommodate to many students.
The academics at TIS are plausible. The checkpoint results in ’09 turned out to be FAR ABOVE the average of schools in London. IGCSE results for the summer examinations of ’11 are coming out in a few day’s time.
There are many quality teachers at TIS, such as the Biology, Chemistry, English, Drama, Music, Business, Economics, Geography, History, Physical Education, and Design Technology teachers. All of which have given their full effort to push all their students to the best of their learning abilities, teaching things beyond Cambridge’s syllabus, further extending our knowledge. Many teachers have dedicated non-paying hours to teach outside of the school day, and to source for useful items such as activities, websites for students’ references, and past year papers for numerous examinations such as Checkpoints, ICAS, and IGCSEs among many others.
There are limited co-curricular activities not because of the limited resources and links to other schools, but because students are unaware that such activities can be available to them, and choose not to participate.
As for the DT department, the machinery available is top-notch, and some do not work not because of the lack of software, but because of rubbish suppliers around Kuala Lumpur. I am a DT student, and there was sufficient machinery and programs to fully complete my coursework.
The ICT labs and school’s systems are raided with viruses that did not even come from the web. These viruses were installed by students within as a prank. The system is continuously under virus scans now, and the ICT department are putting in huge amounts of effort to remove all viruses.
As for the “rubbish working environment”- numerous teachers have transferred for Garden International School, Cempaka International School, among many others, and have said to several students that they prefer TIS’s working environment.
If there’s anything that TIS can be absolutely proud of, is the things they’ve actually achieved in the three short years. Such as their sports teams, which have been head-to-head with many of the best International schools in KL, and the academic results from numerous examination boards.
Outside of what TIS can control, the campus is a lovely environment, right next to a forest reserve. There is clean, cool air every morning, and there isn’t a trace of exhaust fumes that are so commonly found in the heart of the city. Right next to TIS, is an expanse residential community, in which most of the students at TIS enjoy pastimes that seem to be long forgotten, such as cycling, kite-flying, picnics, barbecues, and many sporting activities.
All in all, TIS is still brand new, the most speedy with school improvements, among the best with their academic results, among the best with numerous sports teams, and a completely different experience. Students here are very happy with the dedicated teachers, and the friends they’ve made.
Should anyone like to hear more from the student body, please feel free to email me at TIS.student@hotmail.com
As a student I am sure you enjoy your time in the school. But we were promised certain conditions which were never implemented and as such we feel cheated.
Bull shit…..
I send my son to Tenby and because they told me it’s a portugese school
You are not a student. You are clearly a member of senior management in disguise. Thank you daljits, my wife warned me about this school and you have confirmed her fears. I am an outstanding teacher in England and do not want to enter into this hostile environment. I will not be applying for the job now.
Agreed that is not a student !! I work in TIS Miri and it is HORRIBLE !! new senior management is a puppet ! he has come from being a deputy head to a principal , staff moral on the floor and this will impact the children. sorry to say but TIS as a group is a joke.
The TIS “Student” sounds to me more like the words of a certain Principal (cough cough I wonder who? Do you seriously think that any student would write this?). I never heard of “Many teachers have dedicated non-paying hours to teach outside of the school day, and to source for useful items such as activities, websites for students’ references”…the only thing as I know is the sport/competition leaders working without pay but, not academic staff.
I am currently one of the teachers at TIS now…. Long story to tell, students and enviroment is good, but the management totally sucks!
Especially the COO…..whatever he says and promises is just utter rubbish !! All he seems to care about is money and profits and very little about teachers and student education (which is ironic being a school)
I’ve heard a few cases of teachers being bullied by management….What a terrible workplace experience for new teachers, they will be traumatised for life over this.
Money is the bottom line at this school. Perhaps it should be the school motto.
School fees increase 15%-20% yet teacher salaries only rise 5% (hardly enough to keep up with inflation). I wonder if the adminstrators only get 5% annual rise as well?
On the issue of teacher Bonuses, it seems to be inconsistant amongst staff. If you’re a boot licking (polisher) teacher you might get a bit more… but thats a lots shoe polish to swallow. Yuck~
If you want good conditions, good pay, and want to work for school who cares about children’s education then perhaps give Tenby Internation a miss because the only goal Tenby has is: P-R-O-F-I-T.
On the other hand if you want to work and be treated like a slave..then Tenby is the place (yes, I’m serious)
An extra 33 new classrooms are on the plans to be built for the expanding Tenby empire. But will they fill these callsroom with quality teachers who will stay and enjoy their job?…Unlikely. Another 33 cells for inmates with 3 years hard labour.
On the other hand if you want to work and be treated like a slave..then Tenby is the place for you. (yes, I’m serious)
Promotions for teachers are a joke, to put is bluntly, if you’re white you’re alright, but if you’re not, then expect to be treated like a second class citizen. Head of departments and key stage leaders only go to white or overseas people. Local or asian people are the second preference unfortunately. So much for equal opportunity. Racial descrimination is well and alive at TIS. If this was done in the UK, USA or Australia the school would be subject to huge fines.
On the subject of termination of contracts, Tenby will hold the teachers contract to letter. If you try to leave before your contract then expect trouble. You almost need to be a lawyer to understand the convoluted contract terms and conditions.. deliberating confusing for Tenby’s benefit I might add, so you give up easier, unless you want to get involved in a lengthy court case.
I’ve seen many good teacher pass through Tenby who were let go, but many crap teachers stay on. (Principal and Deputy Principal you mention who had bad name at Garden went onto Tenby, to find a good home)
In the 2011 IGSE, students results were excellent, many achived ‘A’ level.. good you think? Well it so happens the school was unable finish the syllabus and parent were forced to spend thousand of RM on outside tuition (some even send their kids to Singapore for this). This another example of Tenby mis-management.
I love the students at Tenby… but management is driving me nuts… so I’ll be saying goodbye soon.
Tenby’s whole problem is lack of effective managment and leadership, and they don’t listen to feedback given by teachers or parents… this is an issue Tenby themselves must tackle if they want to taken seriously as an international school.
More interesting comments about Tenby here:
http://www.expatexchange.com/rspnet.cfm?add=ok&rid=62&answerid=25997&networkid=75&start=25997
Excuse me TIS Teacher, but you sound equally suspicious as TIS Student. A certain ‘daljits’ perhaps?
Are you serious?
My son has been in the TIS setia eco park for almost a year now and i’d like to say that i have no regrets for enrolling my son there. Any parents who are reading comments from parents or teachers about TIS on this webpare have to read them with an open mind. Don’t believe everything that has been written for they are merely someone else’s opininion, but it does not represent the majority. I disagree with the comment that the teachers in TIS are not qualified. As I constantly monitor my son’s progress in the school,I would say that my son is currently taught by qualified and great teachers. Besides, i believe many will agree with me that we will never find a perfect school. In every school there are excellent, mediocre, average teachers. So let us not be harsh when giving comments to tarnish the image of TIS for many students are benefiting from the school. The IGCSE results which were released recently have been excellent and we must not give the credit wholely to the students taking tuition. Their teachers have also done a great coaching and guidance. Students going for tuition happens in every international school. When the results are good, parents say they send their kids for tuition, but the results are bad, parents blame the teachers not the tuition teachers. Let us be fair..
It seems it is easy to throw mud, hoping that some of it sticks . . . which it invariably does.
We are looking at sending our child there and went for a visit today – chatted with several teachers off-line and they seemed quite satisfied . . . and expat teachers do tend to speak their mind.
We’ll enroll her and see how it works out . . . if it is indeed as bad as one or two ex-teachers say it is . . . my wife is a lawyer.
Hi, how is your child doing at Tenby and are you and your wife happy with the school?
Are the resources as bad as some people make it out to be?
Hi HG, we want to know how your child is doing now that it is probably 1 year plus. We will be moving back to Malaysia soon and is considering Tenby. As the saying goes, there is not fire without smoke so we really appreciate your reply. Thanks.
I am currently teaching at Tenby School where I have been employed for the past few years. I am leaving at the end of this term, as the school refused to pay my December salary, which I am entitle to under labor law. I am going to take legal action.I have been subjected to bullying from the School over this matter.Not only me, those teacher’s that left have been bullied. That why many good teacher’s left.
Hi, I’d like to withdraw my comment and have it deleted, which I’ve made on 20th Sept 2011. Thanks.
I have applied for a teaching position at this school. I am currently trying to escape a school that these comments resemble! The comments above make me want to ditch the interview I have been offered. Are things really this bad?
Is this school really that bad?
Hi, Is TIS damn bad? I just got an offer for my girl to enroll Year 1 on this coming Sept? Pls advise or any other comments?
Hi, like carmen, my 2 boys just got an offer fr TIS this coming Sept, Would appreciate someone teach/ study or existing parents in TIS give some comments. I do know some TIS parents and their feedback to this school seem quite good.
Hi carmen and may, i also received an offer for year 2 on january second sem next year., as sept is ady full. I am in the dilemma now as i compare tenby to maz(new branch in shah alam, nearby setia alam, very nice environment with mostly expatriate teacher )..any comments for these school?
Hi Carmen, I guess I am in the same predicament as you last year when you posted your comment. So did you finally enrol your boys into the school? And how has it been?
All I can add is ….. any international School with low fees and long waiting list does not equate to being a good/competent School; nor does a new international School with very little info to share can be considered transparent enough to listen their customers (parents) concerns; nor does a new intern. School with no PTA created (an Established Intern. school does have a PTA so that new parents can get info from existing parents) must have something to hide and not share any info with their customers (parents); nor does any international School with many local/regional teachers (who generally are cheaper to hire, instead of expat ones from Britain/Aus/NZ) will result in low & minimum quality of output, which in turn make existing parents spend more precious funds on tuition for their kids to pass the important Year 6 & 9.
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IMHO –You should NOT accept nor be satisfied with this school’s so called international education which had parents of older/higher grades leaving in droves because the school is runned like local school establishement and more for profit than educating. Find another school. There is still time.
Dear Mrs. A,
Hi, can you please give me some comment on TIS? Cause my girl got an offer to enter Year 7 after her UPSR exam.
Hi! So many mixed reviews…would appreciate some feedback from parents and teachers at TIS as my child has just been offered a place here and am considering leaving the present school coz they’re not doing age-appropriate Cambridge? Please advise urgently, thanks!
initially i was thinking of applying a teaching position with TIS, with high expectations. thus am quite surprised to come across this website. sincerely appreciate comments.
I would like to highlight something about the school-blame it all on the education systemn in our country which has give rise to private and int schools with no governing boby so every school has its own ruls and the point of the day is moneymaking.I know many teachers in earky years who are not educators-they just join in as helpers and eventually end up teaching the young ones.Very few are into their jobs-showing favouritism towars foreign parents and those who are so and so and if you are indian as indeed someone commented racism is practised here.There is no proper PTA and they are not in a position to address issues that take place because hese are some people who convene a meeting with no agenda.
Parents have to put in alot of effort and time and at times I personally feel that a good Govt A school will better.Many parents bought homes there bec of the proximity of the school and everyone has said right about the COO and of course the H/mistress is another story.
I think today all Int schools are the same-the reputable ones cost an arm and a leg.Some teachers are pretty rude and if these so called educators hve this attitude what are they imparting to young children.
Send your children to the school but you have to be a hawk and speak your mind but in order to survive the administration you have to wear branded clothes complete with sunglasses,drive a big car better still if you have a driver and if you are a professional(all the better) you will and your child will get by all with your hard work and not the teacher.
Good luck.
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http://www.expatexchange.com/rspnet.cfm?add=ok&rid=62&answerid=25997&networkid=75&start=25997
This does not suprrise me….I worked at the Ipoh branch of Tenby which was the first campus
It was one of the worst places I ever worked (I am a secondary school teacher from the UK teaching abroad).
I had and lived in worked in Malaysia for eight years previous and I can say this is the worst run place I’d ever seen.
Old dilapidated buildings (used to be a military encampment in colonial days). Rooms are in horrible disrepair full of cockroaches. A/C often doesn’t work. When I worked there , was not set up for either LCD or wifi but that might have changed. They kept saying we were going to move but it never happened.
Apparently all the money was going to set up the Setia Eco park school (this was a few years back)
In addition, the school does everything possible to make it hard for the teacher. Schedule of ten changed at a moment’s notice and you teach something you had not prepared for(I teach in multiple disciplines). The woman who does scheduling at the time I was there was senile and about 80 years old.
They hire anyone because their priority is low salaries so they only hire people that will work for peanuts (and you get monkeys). A lot of the other teachers have no experience teaching as well as no education in teaching. They are the worst group of incompetents, sociopaths and lairs I have ever seen.
They tell you school ends at a certain time but there are endless meetings that could have been wrapped up in half an hour that go on until 6:30 because the principal is a loudmouthed moron with no formal training,.
The head of campus, Mrs Lai, is a rude old time Chinese with no manners and no idea how to run a business in the 21st century and no idea about how to teach (which is funny considering she used to be a principal of a local school) but what do you expect from a business run by KK Lim family, slumlord and mobster?
Avoid this school like the plague!
Dear Daljits,
Greetings and my salutations for speaking up !
My little experience with Tenby Ipoh.
This is not a school but a money-making factory designed to cheat people. While the infrastructure makes you to think you have time-travelled back to 18th century, the management will make you to wonder either you are dealing with human beings or pigs with half-baked clay in their heads.
The head of campus is not only rude but also a pure moron. The top management of school (a few hired exparts) are nothing but puppets to the ‘towkay’ (owner of the school). The only objective of the school is to make money, nothing else. Ask any teachers there (who have the guts, of course) and you’ll get a clear picture what’s going on. One expart is leaving today for good !
I think its about time for the parents to stand up and make our voice heard. Education is sacred – please have some respect for it ! If you want to do business, venture into pig or cattle farming instead of opening up international schools here and there.
Dear friends,
What Philips had said is 100% correct. Please avoid this school – this is NOT a school but a money making scam by KK Lim’s cronies….
I am a student here at tenby international school and I completely agree with the comments saying the school is utter bollocks. I joined tenby since it opened and the first year was great but in the next year as they opened up a new class and the school was making good money everything went downhill. The school has made so many empty promises this school isn’t about a united world through peace that’s basically a bunch of bullshit. this school is all about the money, they say that parents and students comments will be taken into consideration to make the school a better environment ,that’s 1 promise and u can see how that turned out. In school we have a student council which are meant to change things for the students and so far there have been no changes. And I don’t think it’s the student council is responsible for the lack of action taken to change the school because I know many students in the council who are dedicated to changing the school and making it happen. Every offer that they have made to the school has been turned down as the school just sits on their ass all day. And another thing is that this is called tenby international school for a reason but honestly it looks like a Chinese school to me. 90% of the schools students are Chinese not that I’m being biased and saying that there’s anything wrong with Chinese people but all I see is 1 race what happened 2 interacting with other cultures and races huh! And as for me a student who is non Chinese I am constantly being discriminated by my colour,race,religion by fellow students. And when I try to make a complaint about it or anything in general I will immediately become the bad apple being picked on by teachers or students alike. And after nearly 4 years of taking this crap I think I’m going to take a stand. I may not be an adult but I think we students,parents and teachers whom feel this way should work together to try to fix this. Not just for me but for students like me that are feeling discriminated and bullied for parents to make it a better for your kids for us students and any teachers who feel that their being abused by the management.
For any of u who want 2 contact me for any purpose feel free 2 at Naggrs@yahoo.com
Sad to hear all these. Quality of Education should not be sacrificed at the expense of profit. Yes, it is a private school and parents who pay fees do expect the education quality to be good, at par or even better than other international/private schools. The students must be all rounder to grow up into a better adult and able to handle and face life in a good manner. However, parents or teachers, there are many international schools sprouting out around the Klang valley now. Competitions will be intense and I believe it’s a good thing. There’ll be more choices and badly run schools will suffer and may be forced out of business.
When TIS is mentioned to others, the first word that comes out would be, ‘is it an International School? Seems like its a local Chinese private school’. Cannot blame people’s observations because TIS do not seem to balance the ratio of Malaysian, non-Malaysian very well here. If one observe TIS to other international schools, it is very obvious. However, this is not a racist comments just stating the fact that TIS seems to have high majority of Malaysian Chinese. I wonder why? Surely the education ministry can check up on these imbalances. As one student put it, being discriminated for not being in the majority race in the school, this is sad indeed. When they are more of one kind, kids tend to form a group of their own and bully the minority. Simple logic. It will be great if the school can look into all these and take actions for the better of all children, not just business niche. It would be good if racial integration is encouraged and given a priority to these kids. They must learn to accept all as our vast world is made up of a variety of all. Instill respects to all, then only they can grow up to be individuals that are better and all rounder too. This is my wish as a mother, parents and human being.
Concerned parent.
Coming into its 5th year of operations in Setia Eco Park, Tenby had still not changed one bit on many fronts, be it its mgmt of the entire Operation or running of the indiv. school streams…all they ever, ever care about is the money Tenby can generate by providing sub-std facilities and sub-std mentality in terms of health, safety and well-being for the students concerned.
Here are the facts :-
• New TIS Primary bldg layout and structure does not cater for a full-fledged kitchen;
• From any parent visiting and looking in, they can tell it is a last minute patched up job to have a canteen for the sake of having one – no signboard/no pricing/no proper hygiene stds/no proper-made toilet signage;
• No proper ventilation observed as there were not any fans in their new canteen area since the start of school on 3rd Sep;
• Not enough seating for 700-800 or so children, many of them had been sitting on the dusty unwashed cemented floor during morning tea break and lunch time since the start of school on 3rd Sep, which meant proper hygiene stds will not have been followed-heaven forbid, it does not lead to HFMD;
•Worse still~ the flow of traffic system to disperse cars within the new area or the lack of it ??// ….is there for everyone to see;
• The Tenby mgmt cannot put the blame on others but themselves.
The post is written with malicious intent. A case of sour grapes obviously.
I am a parent with 3 children in Tenby and we have been there from it’s 2nd year of operations. On the whole, the school is fine and has made improvements over the years. A bit more could have been done perhaps but, considering the quantum of fees charged, I am more than happy with what the school has achieved in a relatively short period of time.
I wish to highlight a few things from the post and also from the various comments. Firstly, this so called “international teacher” can’t even construct proper English sentences. Secondly, I am extremely worried over this “teacher’s” choice of words in conveying his/her message. What sort of teacher spews profanities this way? To me, I don’t even think this person is qualified to be a teacher and probably got booted out when parents made a fuss over his/her quality.
Secondly, a common thread underlying the post is money. Money, money and more money. It was mentioned that fees increased by 15-20%. What utter rubbish! I can confirm that for the first 2 years, fees were not increased at all and in the 3rd year onward, there was an increase of approximately 5% averaged across all year levels. I know because I am the one paying the fees. The fact that information such as fees can be twisted out of proportion leads me to conclude that the rest of the post is not factual in any way.
Thirdly, has anyone considered the fact that Tenby’s fees are amongst the cheapest in the Klang Valley. They are on par or even cheaper than some local private schools! GIS is approximately 2.5 to 3 times more expensive than Tenby so please cut the BS about making profits. If Tenby can make profits based on the fees it charges, then imagine how much more GIS (and other older, more established schools) make.
Fourthly, why all the fuss over “low wages”? Didn’t the writer sign an offer letter before taking up the job? It’s not as if he/she did not know what he/she is going to receive every month.
I would think that this disgruntled “teacher” is upset over some issue, probably stemming from the COO and the Principal (BTW, I am expecting that someone will claim that I am actually the Principal writing in the guise of a parent). So upset that he/she started a personal vendetta against the school.
It’s simple! If Tenby is as bad as what you claim, it won’t be packed full of kids and boast a waiting list. Since the post writer claims there are better schools around, surely these kids would rather study at these schools, no?
Dear Vee,
You sounds like one of the director of the school. Are you (em, em…Mrs Lai, by any chances? he he he). Come on lah….so many parents and students cannot be so wrong about this stupid school. You must be one of their cronies for sure. This is a Chinese Private School, with the main aim of making money. Period. Keep your nonsense to yourself or better still keep quiet !
Yes, I am one of the Directors of the school. My name is Mr Chan and I will be getting my lawyers to send you a letter soon. Or maybe I am from the Ministry of Education. Or perhaps I could be the same person who uses different names to post various comments just to give the (rather poor) impression that there are actually visitors to this blog.
Do explain why the school is so full of students if so many parents feel the same way as you do about our school.
A Chinese private school? You are clearly delusional. Either that or you have no idea what a Chinese private school is. May I suggest you read up before commenting.
This will be my last comment on this pointless blog of yours. May I suggest that you watch your IP addresses before commenting further. It’s very easy to track you down in Malaysia.
Do counter my raised points with solid counter-arguments. Saying that what I’ve said is “nonsense” without any corresponding backup does not carry weight here. Let the others reading judge you here.
Thank you.
“This will be my last comment on this pointless blog of yours. May I suggest that you watch your IP addresses before commenting further. It’s very easy to track you down in Malaysia.”
That sounds like a threat to me. Tut tut. Your IP address must be equally as traceable.
Hi Mr Chan,
1. You’re most welcome to send me legal notice.
2. You’re not even sure either you’re a director of the school or an officer from MOE. Please la…I hope you’re with MOE – at least you could do something about the racial discrimination and disrespect for the National Language in this school.
3. This forum is meant for parents and students , NOT directors of the school. Keep your praises for the school within your cronies.
4. Your school is full of students for one simple reason – choices for parents are very limited in Malaysia, hence they have no choice but to try your school. That doesn’t mean you or your school is the best !
5. Learn to accept critisism with an open heart in order to improve the situation.
6. I have no need to watch over my IP address – you’re most welcome to track it and serve me with your legal notice. Thats what you guys are good at, btw.
7. Please don’t comment again. You’re not welcome here.
Dear all,
I am a parent with kids still in TIS, the eldest one finished her IGCSE last year June 2011. My 3 kids are happy with the teachers and the school environment. We as parents are most concern with this matter.
To clarify with the curiousity of some comments above about the ‘TIS Student’, she is my eldest child who commented after her IGCSE exam, about how she really felt about Tenby. She is not a teacher nor the principal. As English is her 1st language, she was one of the highest scorers in her year group for English Language and English Literature. Thanks to the senior school teachers who spent extra hours guiding the students through pre-examination months. Alike many other parents, I spent many hours traveling to pick my child up in the evenings & Saturdays for the extra lessons in Sciences, Math, DT, Drama, Business Studies, Music and Art.
I admit of course there were some unpleasant incidents like teachers with management or parents with management. But, the most important thing is, the majority of students are happy and get along well with teachers.
Thank you and best regards,
Genevieve
I stumbled upon this blog by chance and have been reading the above comments with a certain degree of interest. It is very easy to criticise and use race as a factor. I have belonged to a minority race throughout my schooling in two of the best schools in the country and it was nobody’s fault, least of the schools’ that I belong to a minority race. And it certainly was not my fault. Race is not a fault nor an issue when it comes to education.
When it comes to education attitude is vital on the part of both the teachers and the students.
I know for a fact that some of the comments made about the Ipoh branch is based totally on emotions and not facts. Students have obtained outstanding results and some have obtained less than mediocre results and yet the teachers are the same, the hours are the same, the facilities are the same but the attitude of students and parents are different.
Two people can look out of a window – one can see stars and the other can see mud. Depends on what you are looking for.
Why do the writers sound so disgruntled and not objective and intellectual? Education is a serious matter and some of the best teachers are to be found in the Ipoh branch. I cannot comment on any other branch since I have no connection with them. In every basket there are bad apples as well.
I expect to be criticised but though I may disagree with what you say about my comments i will support your right to say them, but please do stick to the truth and support your statements with data and evidence. The lady you criticise, is it the truth what you say about her? Is it fair what you say about her? Does it create goodwill in our society what you say about her? Does it create friendships and an opening for further improvement of facilities for our children? If the answer to any of the above is ‘no’, then perhaps we should stop character assasinating people.
spk
Gosh…the comments here have scared the hell out of me. Have a kid there and must admit about the racial mix. For all purposes said and done , TIS appears to be a Chinese school in disguise. Period. The problem is , you dont really know it till you enrol your kid in there. I must admit the almost brand new pool and turf did look unused.
From a parent’s perspective, any school is all about the teachers first. Even if the facilities are not there , dedicated teachers can be quite innovative and can be quite creative about looking at ways and means to improve the kid’s performance. Many private schools consistently make this mistake and TIS appear to be making the same mistake which could prove fatal.
I will give it a couple of months and if there is no improvement, move my kid out.
To all private schools out there, look after the teachers first. They are the ones who will make the difference.
Dear Parents,
R
ecently I moved out my two children from Tenby Ipoh due to some serious issues – of which I am not going to write here. (Some of the above writers have pointed it out cleary). When I ask for my deposit to be refunded – as usual they said they will not pay a single cent because I have signed a form earlier on. I took them to Consumer’s Tribunal and WON the case ! The judge ordered the school to pay within 14 days and also rebuked the school director for being so rude and arrogant ! So, to all parents out there – stand up for your rights – don’t let the school to bully you. Take them to Consumer’s Tribunal. Don’t let them to keep our hard earned money !
My advise to all parents in Ipoh – the new international school in Kampar – Westlake International School offers a more credible choice. Teachers are highly qualified and the facilities are first class – worth every cents ! Do consider this school. They provide transport from Ipoh daily.
Tenby School’s days of monopoly is over !
Regards.
Tenby has a very odd ratio for an International school 99% local Malaysian students??? We ended up sending our kid to ISKL instead.
I don’t know where you get your “99%” figure from but it only shows that you did not set foot in the school. Hope your kid enjoys ISKL.
The best read I have had in ages. I had sent off an application today but after reading all these comments have withdrawn it. I am not normally swayed by comments but after reading all these have decided to go with my gutt feelings! Keep the honesty coming
gulp! I had just gotten an interview and now I’m thinking twice. But I have had a similar horrible experience with an “international” school in KL before and all the negative aspects sound too familiar. Asian owner out there to make tones of money at the expense of quality education, childrens’ welfare, and staff wellbeing. Thank you, Daljits so much for creating this blog to warn others (prospective students and teachers out there), I appreciate it!
Hi did you take up the job? I was just thinking of applying at tenby setia eco gardens. Hope to hear from u
A new principal and deputy have been employed within the last 12 months at Ipoh. Are things improving? I am awaiting to see if I have been successful in an application to teach at Tenby Ipoh and am now cautious. I have no problems with helping a school on its journey to improve but only if the right support is in place. Any information would be much appreciated.
Does anyone know about TIS Miri?
We are considering sending our 2 children to TIS Miri can anyone give us some positive feed back?
racist school dont join tenby setia eco park they sack all the GOOD local teachers and replace them with shitty foreign ones
How about TIS Miri? I’m thinking to move there for the 10th grade,
Wow, that’s what I was seeking for, what a stuff! existing here at this
blog, thanks admin of this web site.
Agree agree 100% Tenby School ( Shah Alam, Ipoh or Penang – all the same ) only interested in money and money, school fees increases every year!
how about tenby Penang? Aside the increasing fee every year, is it as bad as the others?
My wife and I travelled to Westlake International School daily covering at least 130km because we felt our childrens’ future were terribly cheated by their Ipoh school. We have no regrets dumping this unethical and rubbish school that greed after more money! Yea, my children are much happier in Westlake and we the parents would prefer to do this than stay put in that shit hole. Avoid TIS at all cost whether as students or staff!
tenby is rubbish. Studied there for 5 years. Everything is overpriced.
Haiz.. I use to study there too.. Reakky brainless establishment. Can u imagine 30k for A-levels while k-tar is offering the same course for 13k in KL where cost of living, rent etc etc is almost double the price of Ipoh
Fucked up school. Never let your kids come here. No standard at all. Only want money. Money is their priority education is last. Remember parents don’t waste your money to send kids here. Not kidding ex-student here.
Especially the one in Ipoh .
I think the whole group is the same
IIs is rubbish.. Studied there. Wasted my time.
I hate this school. Tramautise me for life. Teachers accuse me of being a thief and actually on the day i was absent. make no sense. Rubbish
Once, a student put a fish (flower horn) in my water to drink and i complained to the teacher n no action was taken.
I remember the COO of this stupid school making fun of me as i am a very fair boy and dont like being in the sun. She called me a sissy and I need to man up.
This school is pure rubbish. Once i got beaten up in the toilet to the extend i needed to go to the hospital but no diciplinary action was taken on the boy as he accused me of making fun of him.
students caught having sex once in the music room and u still see them in the school the following days, months, years. no action taking. garbage
I am from iis. I think the school is ok
Dear Mr Tan,
Once again I am copying in Andrew and now Jane to try to understand the content and accuracy of the exchange of e-mails.
I have lived on and off in Malaysia since 1993 and owned a home here since 1998 and love and respect your country and its people, so references to racism etc are another unfortunate development. You seem to infer now that because we are British we are arrogant and deal with matters unfairly.
Andrew has tried to deal with this concern from you and will respond to your questions about the accuracy of his statements to you.
Meanwhile under ANY circumstances in any country your remark about Putin is gratuitous abuse….for which I have asked you to apologise. Whilst we look into the other matters I trust I will see this apology soon.
I am not protecting anyone – it is just a matter of common sense and important principle that I will not have my staff abused in such a way.
I am also happy to meet with you in the week beginning 18th August.
Kind regards,
Alister
Sent from my iPhone
On 27 Jul 2014, at 14:13, Dominic Tan wrote:
Dear Mr. Alister,
Thanks for ur email again. Perhaps this time I m getting the drift that ur beginning to understand my points for argument.
Again, I would like to stressed out to you that the temporary solution dat u mentioned was implemented before end of term. This is correct. It has been aldy done as Jane Kuok confirmed with 2 photos on 22nd July.
My accusations of Andrew lying n covering up is as follow:
1. As of 21st June, nothing was done as yet except for the yellow stripes being thickened.
2. It was not mentioned by Andrew it was suppose to be temporary solution to isolate the playground until further progress in August. I was made to understood that was as far as it would go. The chains n the single exit n entry point. Hence u can see here the lack of information conveyed.
3. Andrew said dat the solutions works had been done more than a month ago on 22nd July. 21st June to 22nd July is exactly one month. How can it be possible anything was done more than one month ago?
4. Upon realizing his mistakes on timeline, instead of admitting to wrong information, he purportedly sent me an email asking me wen I last visited school and suggesting dat I didn’t receive his original email perhaps? The emails he forwarded had 2 emails deleted. I believe this edited version is the same as he forwarded to u. I have all his emails as evidence for comparisons.
5. He didn’t sent me any email to inform work was done. But he claimed he aldy sent but I didn’t receive it. U see the funny side to this as how he is wanting to twist his wrong out of limelight?
My question is this: why is it so difficult for andrew to own up to his shortcomings in handling this matter? Why turned around instead n try to make me look stupid? I felt there is an element of racism here, with me being Chinese, and him a British, which I believe it would very much be regrettable in dis direction at a later stage.
Mr. Alister, I m a very ethical businessman with a trustworthy reputation in my industry. I am a man who will admit if I m wrong, or will exhaust all means n resources to defend my stand if I m not in the wrong, whilst being accused unprofoundly.
On the other hand, ur protecting ur staff before investigations is completed against my claims dat he is lying n covering up. He is the principal appointed by Tenby. In such a role, it’s his responsibility to carry a good image for Tenby n not the other way round. Ur a carrying a real weight by protecting ur staff before ur investigation is completed.
Allow ur investigations to complete. If its my error in accusing Andrew, i will issue an official apology to tenby n Andrew. But if my claims are true, I will foresee the trouble of going through all dis hassle will not go to waste via the correct channels. There are always consequences of every actions.
Today, ur asking me to apologize to Andrew for my remark on Putin. At this point, I have not indicated in particular I was referring Putin as Vildamir Putin, president of Russia or my neighbor’s beloved dog, Putin who had since passed some 8 yrs ago. It was a physopatric dog and was put to sleep by the local municipal for causing a lot of stress to the neighborhood. Andrew has been just making baseless assumptions of my referential coincidentally at the same time of the tragic events in Ukraine.
Do u see a common factor now, Mr Alister? We both know I was referring to Putin as president of Russia? But could u see the way I could have twisted myself out of the wrong? I m very sure u was angry wen u started to read in between the lines. Wat u felt 2 mins ago was exactly how I felt.
It was obvious dat Andrew is lying n covering up, I was angry. Same. But fret not, I m not as unethical as Andrew. I do realized my choice of words was very impactful, but as I stand here speaking to u, his actions of lying n covering up does supersedes the grave ness of my remark once again.
Once again I would like to stress, if Andrew can admit his mistakes, I will withdraw my remark n apologize for my remark. Otherwise, it’s best we wait for the result of ur unbiased investigations.
A point to note or as a reminder, as CEO, it’s very damaging to Tenby to protect ur staff if he is in the wrong. It’s best to wait for result of investigations.
I m a person who will not yield if I m in the correct stand, even if I have to incur very high expenses to go great lengths to determine my name is clear. If I m in the wrong, I would immediately accept it n rectify at all cost.
Sincerely,
Dominic Tan.
Sent from my iPad
On 27 Jul, 2014, at 6:04 PM, “Alister Bartholomew” wrote:
Dear Mr Tan,
I am now in the UK on holiday until the 16th August.
I am forwarding on your e-mail to Andrew Auster so that he can respond to the points you make.
Andrew has been very busy since he joined Tenby SEP and he is always attentive to detail but he can only respond to the details he is given by his staff.
If Andrew has deliberately deleted e-mails as you state or lied to you then he can address that…but whilst we are looking into that your abusive statements referring to comparisons with the Russian leader are unacceptable and must be withdrawn and an apology is expected. Reverting to such abuse to emphasise a point is gratuitous. This should be sent directly to Andrew and I should be copied into this.
I understand that a temporary solution to your safety concern was implemented before the end of term and that a permanent solution will be in place by the end of August.
I hope this matter can be resolved soon.
Kind regards,
Alister
Sent from my iPhone
On 27 Jul 2014, at 07:16, Dominic Tan wrote:
Dear Mr. Alister,
First of all, thank you for ur email.
i was given the impression nobody else would care about my complaint at all. finally, ms Jane kuok and yourself have replied after xchg of abusive emails started. before this, i thought my complaints could only go as far as to Andrew.
secondly, pardon me for my poor written english, grammars, etc in the following content of email, as i m typing this email personally instead of asking my PA to do it.
Coming to the most important subject as follow:
As u have been aldy been awared of, firstly my complaints to Ms Tara. she asked me to refer to Andrew as he is the principal of early years. hence i emailed andrew informing him of my concern politely on 16th june.
his response was prompt. he even cc me a copy of email to maintenance manager, mr gan to rectify the matter. mr gan responded everything would be done the following monday. i thought dat was jus great. i even emailed andrew to thank him for his prompt respond n solutions.
i thought everything was settled, until wen i attended the teacher parents meeting on 21st june, n to my dismay, nothing was actually done yet. it has been 1 week past the monday promise. so i emailed andrew asking howcome nothing was done yet except for the yellow strips being painted to a thicker width. he replied he would check n report back. this were his exact words.
i waited 2 weeks. no emails. i was travelling overseas so i didnt had the time to follow up. finally i thought, maybe i shld give it a rest.
one fine morning wen i woke up, i received an email from tenby asking for witness to a 6 car pile up accident where a lorry driver was stuck. the email was saying the parents were so irresponsible to ignore the health n safety rules of tenby community to double park their vehicle on the hiway which caused the accident.
this email really irked me. here, ur blaming the parents for something dat has happened outside the school. but there is a fatal hazard inside school which nobody cared less about. does it require for a real accident to happen then only would tenby look into this issue? its ridiculous. i saw jane kuok’s email add in the end of the email. so i decided i shld write to her abt my complaints.
same morning on 22nd july, i email andrew to ask howcome nothing was done yet. he replied everything was done more than a month ago. he asked me wen was my last visit to school? he even stated he aldy emailed me dat the works have been completed which i didnt receive. he then stated: perhaps u never received my original emails……he is trying to question or challenge me instead to solving my enquiries in good faith.
i was really angry with this response, less than a month i was there on 21st june. nothing was done. i emailed he said will report back as i written above. exactly one month i m writing again. n he dared said done more than a month ago.
i forwarded all emails btw myself n andrew to jane kuok. she didnt reply. in exactly 2 days she replied after andrew told u abt my remark to him on putin. she called me to ask me to be careful of my choice of words and that ceo of tenby is upset abt my remarks.
i carefully explained the situation to her. i emailed her the details. she emailed me 2 photos of completed solutions to the playground. she said she will check w andrew howcome he never sent me any photos to tell me work was done. she said she wld do it after the holidays.
suddenly andrew emailed me forwarded emails asking to scroll down to check for his sent emails. he resent the emails abt gan’s responds. he deleted 2 very important emails from me showing dat i have asked him on 21st june howcome work was not done. he reminded me dat gan is maintenance manager. so if any delay, i shld refer to mr gan not him.
tell me Alister, will u be angry up to this stage? u have 2 young kids, u shld understand my fury.
i then emailed andrew to call him a liar for trying to cover up his shortcomings in handling the case. finally i signed off the email quoting: ur worst than putin.
finally i got the attention of ms jane kuok n ur goodself, Alister. i m glad u both finally have come to the attention of this issue. but sadly, not becoz of my safety concern, its bcoz i sent abusive emails to andrew. seems to me, ur more concerned abt protecting ur staff but not your students.
but nevermind how u both come about this, as long as in the end, now ur both are aware.
Mr. Alister, u want me to write an apology to andrew for my remark of putin. at this stage, i do not think he deserve one from me yet. not yet. as for wat i have been tryin to described as above, if ur dont get it, i will forward all emails to u. my version are not edited. unlike andrew’s version. mine is full version. perhaps u gotta read it very carefully one email after another to understand where i m coming from. also u will need to note the dates of each emails to gather the timeline.
if he can admit for his mistakes, i can apologize for my remark. my remark came from my lost of temper dat morning. u know its not a suitable choice of words. but his wrongdoing aldy supersedes the graveness of my remark.
Alister, imagine if there was accident related to my issue for concern, n it happened between my complaint n to the final words done. wat do u think will happen if i revealed to the victim parent dat i have aldy highlighted to andrew but work was delayed. pls tell me wat can tenby do to reverse the damage? nothing. wat will andrew say? sorry? u think its enuf?
same applies here. why should i apologize to a person who is not responsible for his role? very unethic. if he admits he have overlooked the issue, instead of covering up, i would issue my apology too for my remark. otherwise, i can go great lengths too, to defend my stand.
i hope my email as above has explained my stand on this case.
kindly let me know when to meet at SEP to discuss further.
thanks,
Dominic.
> Subject: Abusive E-mails
> From: A.bartholomew@tenby.edu.my
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 11:10:58 +0800
> CC: andrew.auster@tenby.edu.my; janekuok@tenby.edu.my
> To: mwtan2@hotmail.com
>
> Dear Mr Tan,
>
> I understand that you have highlighted a safety concern in the playground area for our youngest children at Tenby SEP.
>
> This is currently under investigation and we have taken steps to isolate the area prior to rectifying this problem during the coming holiday.
>
> Sadly, it appears that you are not satisfied with the responses from our Campus Principal, Andrew Auster and, although I am aware of a series of exchanges between you when Andrew is trying to assure you that the matter is in hand, it appears you have chosen to become rather abusive in both the tone and content of your e-mails to Andrew.
>
> For example, in a recent e-mail you state “Ur worst than Putin” to Andrew….whilst threatening other action.
>
> Regardless of any frustration you feel this is totally unacceptable, especially given the highly emotive reporting concerning the Russian President in connection with recent tragic events…which presumably you felt would add greater impact!
>
> As you would expect my job is to look at all aspects of the Tenby Group Operations, listen to parental concerns but also to protect my staff from such abuse.
>
> Therefore, I will be looking to see a written apology from you to Andrew as soon as possible, copying me in . If you are not prepared to withdraw your remarks and apologize, then I must ask you to meet with me at SEP to discuss this matter further.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Alister
>
> Alister Bartholomew
>
> Chief Executive Officer
>
> Tenby Educare Sdn Bhd
> A-G-1, no. 1 Persiaran Greentown 2,
> Greentown Business Centre,
> 30450 Ipoh, Perak
> Malaysia
>
> Mobile number : +60126403319
> Office number : 605-2425933 extension 880
> Office fax : 605-2437736
> a.bartholomew@tenby.edu.my
>
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Mr tan making a total fool of himself. Idiot.
Well done Tenby. Now get rid of this fool.
Mr tan, time to tell your kids we r moving school. When they ask why, tell them cos daddy is an idiot.
On the 27th July 2014 I published a series of e-mails between myself and senior staff of Tenby on the daljits.wordpress.com blog site. In hindsight this was unnecessary and all issues related to the events described have been solved to my full satisfaction. I regret any negative publicity this maybe have generated. Dominic Tan.”
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Avoid this Tenby School.
All Tenby school, Not a good school. All about money and increase every year! Teachers, very common, from kebangsaan school. But the fees you have to pay is far too high!
Tenby School Penang, not a good school. Must avoid, only interested in money. You will regret if you enroll your child there.
Find another school.
Our eldest son is currently studying in Tenby Johor. No no no. For goodness sake. Teacher throwing students’ bag out of the classroom, tearing students’ books, threatening young children, not having Mandarin and Malay teachers for the first two terms. All kind of disrespect responses from the primary head and teacher. Terrible experiences. Paying so much and getting all these.
Agreed with Judith. Tenby Penang – teacher also threw the student’s school bag out of the classroom. No patient teachers, scolded student “stupid”!
Tenby school only look at MONEY and MONEY!
Don’t go to this school!
How about detention? Tenby Penang too? The teacher using the break time or lunch time n makes students stay in the classroom to write some lines, like ‘I will not be chatty anymore.”I will focus and pay attention to teacher next time.’ ‘I will finish my work faster next time.’ And my son was so scared to ask for having his meal. And he was hungry for the whole morning. 😦 and the teacher put the blame on him, because he did not tell the teacher he was hungry. Aw…… What do u expect from a 7 year old boy, having punished for ‘misbehaving’, detained and dare to ask for meal?
Yes detention too? Tenby employed very poor quality of teachers. They don’t understand kids! Some of the teachers are so lousy characters. I just wonder where they find their teachers? Same with the principal and team.
Don’t enroll your child to any of the Tenby school. Waste of money. Very unprofessional teachers and management and poor system.
Try another school.
Tenby School Penang only interested in money, nothing else, definitely not the child’s education. Students smoking inside toilet, kissing, are common in the school! Teachers going to ‘clubbing’ and smoking are also common.
Not good management system. Try check out other school!
Hi Judith! Yes same detention thing!! Very unprofessional teachers that don’t think about the child’s health.
Poor management system.
Tenby schools are bottom line MONEY!
Check out other school.
Nightmares for kid and parents.
The principal is so helpful.
The class teacher(singular) is totally destructive and hopeless.
The primary head is a puppet of the class teacher.
The principal respects the decision of the primary head.
The primary head respects the instruction of the class teacher.
Perfect place for those who likes military school.
Tenby School Penang, lousy school.
You are absolutely right, Tenby School Penang is not a place for your kids. Poor management and money face. Try other school.
Paying for very unprofessional teachers! Should be called “Money School”
This from a student; ‘Racist school, double standard!’
Well whoever in JB, good luck finding better school then Tenby. If you have loads of money, just go to Marlborough. If you’re feeling not so rich, just stay wherever you are and no harm staying at Tenby. I think, that’s the best International School in JB, so far. You can try Austin Heights, Fairview, Real, Sri Ara in JB and you’ll regret for life!
Well, that’s just my 2cents opinion.
hi everyone. how about the tenby shah alam? management and teacher thr?
any improvement?
Greetings! Very useful advice in this particular post!
It is the little changes that produce the most significant
changes. Many thanks for sharing!
Avoid Sri Tenby P Pinang school. Don’t pay such an expensive school. Your child gain nothing extra there. Stay at local school, because no difference from government school. Keep your money for future.
I am thinking for the placement at new campus Miri forth coming session 2015. I am fully confused after reading such typical comments regarding this school.
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Hi All, Any feedback on Tenby Setia Eco Park?
Informative posts from all parties concerned!
Hi, i am looking for a good but not so costly international school in jb. Pls comment on Tenby in Jb….
If you have a school acquired and run by Equinas…good luck to you…it will be like walking into a Manhattan Fish fast food shop….glitzy,expensive and shallow.
Just what’s the matter with this school. They have all the facilities. Appropriate number of students in classes, maybe even the right quantum of teachers, but no compulsory set of co curricular activities. Swimming is not compulsory. And you call yourself a British based school with no rugby and cricket.This is being either plain sissy or lazy.
And to top it off , they actually claim they have British headmaster. No honour. No dignity. No pride.Tenby schools is nothing more then a commercial venture clothed in a uniform and badge.